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Unrealistic R-value claims are alive and well

jackofalltrades777 | Posted in Green Products and Materials on

OK, someone please explain to me how they claim R-64 while only using 8″ of EPS which is around R-32? They claim R-8 per inch of insulation on the wall or roof.

http://www.jepsystem.com/history/

https://www.facebook.com/jepsystem/?ref=page_internal

http://www.jepsystem.com/technical-reports/

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  1. GBA Editor
    Martin Holladay | | #1

    Peter,
    You're right -- something fishy is going on here.

    You can't have "a R-64 insulation factor with an eight inch wall," as the company claims, if the insulation consists of EPS.

    Warning flag: the company explains that these sky-high R-values can be attributed to "nano-ceramic technology." That's always a bad sign.

    Interestingly, the company provides a link to a lab report by a trustworthy company (R&D Services). The report is even signed by Dave Yarbrough, a straight-arrow guy. Here is the link: Estimated R-values and U-values for JP Wall and Roof Panels.

    Here's what the R&D Services report says:

    The R-value of these panels depends on the type of EPS or XPS that the company includes.

    If the company includes EPS or XPS with an R-value of R-3 per inch, then the 7-inch wall panels will have an R-value of R-20.5, and the 11-inch roof panels will have an R-value of R-31.2.

    If the company includes EPS or XPS with an R-value of R-3.5 per inch, then the 7-inch wall panels will have an R-value of R-23.9, and the 11-inch roof panels will have an R-value of R-36.3.

    If the company includes EPS or XPS with an R-value of R-4 per inch, then the 7-inch wall panels will have an R-value of 27.2, and the 11-inch roof panels will have an R-value of 41.4.

    If the company includes EPS or XPS with an R-value of R-4.5 per inch, then the 7-inch wall panels will have an R-value of 30.5, and the 11-inch roof panels will have an R-value of R-46.5.

    If the company includes EPS or XPS with an R-value of R-5.0 per inch, then the 7-inch wall panels will have an R-value of 33.9, and the 11-inch roof panels will have an R-value of R-51.6.

    So how did the company manage to use this lab report to falsely claim that their wall panels have an R-value of R-64? Beats me.

  2. GBA Editor
    Martin Holladay | | #2

    This morning I sent an email to Dave Yarbrough, the engineer who wrote the accurate lab report. Dave emailed me back: "I called John Propst [presumably, one of the owners or officials at JEP System] immediately. I insisted that the site be corrected (immediately). Someone made a blunder."

    We'll have to wait and see if Dave's complaint bears fruit.

    .

  3. jackofalltrades777 | | #3

    It will be interesting to see what happens. It's false advertising and clearly an FTC violation.

    https://www.greenbuildingadvisor.com/blogs/dept/energy-solutions/ftc-cracking-down-false-r-value-claims

    This R-64 is clearly a false number and they are pushing this on numerous venues, even the sustainable building program in that county they built that home they are advertising.

  4. GBA Editor
    Martin Holladay | | #4

    It looks like the web page with the false R-64 claim has been taken down as a result of Dave Yarbrough's complaint.

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