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As Lucas pointed out
a Tavern is not the best place to Fight
or the best Place for “Third Graders”
It seems that we can not avoid “getting personal”
The personal “stuff” continues to Pollute and OVERWHELM some discussions
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Since we now have an Editing feature
I would suggest that If someone realizes they have "polluted"....
they should go back and clean up their own mess
I did this myself recently after I realized I had taken a good thread off-topic with potty humor
Let me start the childish behaviour
AJ,
I have decided that the playground is the ONLY place that I will "talk" to you.
You are the only one who continues to post at GBA with your CHILDISH fake name.
We can all be polite John. I know we can. You and I choose to post with names that we are at liberty to choose. What is wrong with accepting the difference and dropping your need to not be polite?
I don't get why anyone would want to ever continue non stop to not be civil? I don't get the young girl being killed? It seems you have actually sidetracked this site more than anyone John with your continued worry over something like a name. Hitler did this well... Jew... dirty Jew... non human via labelling.. then... exterminate them... them... not people. Nope... just something bad that must be eliminated.
Slippery road you are moving along John. Not funny. You are trying to cleanse this place of the likes that do not mirror you. a GBA Hitler? hmmm.
I say we need to use this week to go in the other direction. To learn to be polite to those that have differences.
If not then GBA should get back at removing impolite posts and non GBA threads like this and the Tavern. They are not proving to be productive if they end in more flaming then less. Don't you think the same John on this one point?
I realize many of my own faults
If I am in a theatre and some juveniles keep talking
I am the Jerk who stands up and says something
I know...I know
AJ,
here is a link to the Mooney Wall
http://www.builditsolar.com/Projects/Conservation/MooneyWall/MooneyWall.htm
AJ, you are right we can all be more polite - including me. I do try.
One part of being polite is to know when your comments will not be appreciated.
Another part of being polite is following through on your public statements:
AJ, I do not want to engage in "flame wars".
I really think if we avoid talking to each other directly and stick to the "honour system" everything should be fine.
Wearing your aligator skin should help too.
Reason for edit: formatting error.
John, I find that standing up in the theatre is a dying art. I try to keep it alive ;-)
It usually causes some temporary muttering but at least I get to enjoy my show in peace.
Now to be fair to Martin
Almost everyone except Carl
went off topic recently
nice work Carl
John,
Assuming I'm allowed to comment here: Robert Riversong has often challenged strict "don't go off the topic" rules. Those are tough rules to enforce.
On a different thread, I wrote what I thought was a respectful tribute to a poster named Oberon, and was immediately shot down for polluting the thread. Considering the range of language I've seen recently, I thought the accusation of "pollution" was a little strong -- considering the politeness of my language.
Personally, I think restricting threads to very narrow topics is going to be hard to do, even for a self-appointed policeman like John. Good luck.
For me, the dividing line shouldn't be, "Is it on-topic or off-topic?" Rather, the more important dividing line should be, "Is it respectful or insulting?"
Martin,
thanks
I may have taken your post the wrong way.
It seemed that you were defending AJ's right to be anonymous.
not merely paying tribute to Oberon
John,
Well, now that you bring the issue up, here's my point: I really like discussions about construction techniques, building science, and green building.
As I've written before, I really have no interest in discussions about the personalities of other people who post or a comment that attacks another poster. I'm just not interested in those discussions.
So, I don't care for posts that call other people terrorists, lurkers, cowards, etc.
I also have no interest in the seemingly endless posts telling someone else that some portion of their name is suspect or may not be a real name. When I see these posts, my eyes glaze over. Let's talk construction.
I introduced Oberon as an example. If he (or people like him) are hounded from GBA because some people suspect the name they post with is not the same as the name on their passport, who gains? Who loses?
Why would Oberon's employer not respect him for sharing his knowledge about Glass?
I have never noticed him being overcritical of the glass industry.
do you have links?
John,
I have no idea whether Oberon is the poster's first name, his last name, or a pseudonym.
You'd have to ask him whether his employer cares what he posts about.
All I'm saying is that I value his posts and I have absolutely no interest in seeing a photocopy of his passport or driver's license. I'm just glad he shares his expertise.
To read his posts, you can probably log into the JLC forum and search for "Oberon."
Martin, It was the comparison of aj to Oberon that was ridiculus and polluting, come on Martin, your no dummy. Pollution was mild for that insult of intelligence.
AJ has abused this site with lurker posting and therefore diminished respect.
GBA should require name verification and use to vastly improve the quality of this site. Period.
Roy,
I don't think that GBA has any bad intentions or is in any way greedy.
I think they are trying to present state-of -the-art construction practice.
the problem is with the state-of -the-art construction practice
our only options seem to be what flavor of foam do you want.
John, posted a few times, natural foam is being developed.
Good work AJ,
You have brought your non-sequitur idiocy to a new low, comparing John to Hitler and repeatedly bringing up the 9 year old girl who was shot in Arizona, which has nothing whatsoever to do with anything here at GBA.
You're behavior is unfit even for a playground.
I guess what is lacking here is the "REAL" definition of Green Building.
Is state- of- the- art construction using anything thats state-of-the-art Green, or does Green have more meaning than State-of-the-art ?
Is Green Building Advisor really committed to the promotion of real Green Building techniques or have those techniques yet to be determined? What the hell is Green Building anyway?
Roy, watch out. I asked that question once.
i'm wearin my hard hat Lucas,
Thanks
Roy,
No real discussions allowed in the playground.
I'm trying my damn'dest to pollute this sucker...
Did you ever notice there are very few South Park Girls?
this stupid behaviour is more of a boy thing.
This is why
My wife has a joke about boys
What do you get when you put 2 boys together......
Half a Boy ;--)
Getting a little close to a real discussion there Robert~ watchem scramble...
OK, I admitt it .... I'm only half a Roy
I don't get it.
Went to the woods in search of a brilliant deduction.....
I still don't get it. Is that like a Zen koan?
Robert,
In Texas the big problem is not Fords or Forks in the road
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UejelYnVI3U
I thought dead skunks were our problem up in Vermin(t), and that your problem down in Tex-Ass was:
...Mr Edwards....Don't get on that ship! The rest of the book,
"To Serve Man", it's... it's a cookbook!
That was my favorite Twilight Zone show.
Except that now I believe most ETs are benign and have come here to help us (but they're all treated like terrorists and locked up in Area 51).
Truly.
Dr. Steven Greer, creator of the Disclosure Project has done more than anyone in the world to expose the truth about ET visits to earth. Because of his courage and honesty, dozens of retired military, intelligence and other professionals have now come forward to tell what they know and witnessed (including live and dead ETs, various spacecraft and secret reverse engineering of flying saucers). A few of them testified at the National Press Club in 2001.
When you have a spare couple of hours, it's well worth a watch.
The most promising revelation about UFO visits are the multiple incidents of appearances at US nuclear missile silos during which the "fail-safe" launch computers completely shut down. In another incident, a civilian contractor to the military filmed a test launch of an ICBM with a dummy nuclear warhead. When the rocket approached terminal velocity at 12,000 mph, a UFO circled around it like it was standing still, shooting an energy ray three times, and disabled the warhead as if in warning to the earth that nukes will not be tolerated in space.
So "To Serve Man" may not be a cookbook at all, but a manual for the pacification of the Universe.
Wonder why they allowed their creation in the first place, must be some method to the maddness...
Method, or just Madness?
I loved all the Rod Serling episodes. My favorite was Maple Street.
He may end up being a soothsayer - can you imagine what would happen if we ever ran out of power, oil, etc.?
In response to Roy's pontification. "green" is a catch phrase, probably introduced by Dow Chemical, DuPont, BASF or some other multinational corporate conglomerate so that the buzz-word loving peasants could understand the concept without having to decipher more than 1 syllable. Back in the day, when I lived in the beautiful "Green Mountain State", I considered it Environmentally concious, or Environmentally responsible. Yes, they are hardcore environmentalists up there. Just ask Robert R.
Hardcore? Nah, just us Vermont Green-necks.
But the modern use of the term "green" has been around for about 40 years, starting with the German Green Party in the early 70s and then gradually making it's way across the pond, culminating in the first Green conference in Amherst MA in 1987 and then Nader's run for the White House on the Green Party ticket in 2000.
But it also took on its radical hue when the Don't Make a Wave Committee became GreenPeace in 1971.
The term "greenwashing" was coined back in 1987 by environmentalist Jay Westerveld, and today 41% of Americans are suspicious of the use of the term "green".
Though the FTC has not defined the term, the so-called "green" sector of the economy is one of the fastest growing, even in the recession.
So, to this day, I don't think anyone really knows what it means except one:
How do you qualify as a hardcore environmentalist?
Thanks for your responce Shane, It's all beginning to make sence....
the entire world needs many, many, many more hardcore environmentalists.
How does one qualify to achieve this high status?
Holdin back my smile... hurts..
Wow, I did not know that about the "green" movement Robert, Thx for the info. I never really thought of "why" Greenpeace called themselves that.
Yeah, I wouldn't describe Earth First as "hardcore". They are "extremist"
Hardcore to me has postive connotations and beneficial attributes. Maybe sometimes just a little too conservative for my taste.
Cheers
ok, I get the point. Hardcore is just a generic label that I use personally. There is no singular definition. Politics can use destructive methods (i.e. deficit spending, war), or conversally, Construction (charity, green building)
I wouldn't call MLK extremist. Equal rights for all human beings isn't an extreme idea, unless you're a Neanderthal.
"Gentlemen. You can't fight in here. This is the War Room!"
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UAeqVGP-GPM&feature=related
Remember Duck & Cover?
J. Edgar Hoover did.
In an August 30, 1963 memo, King was branded by William Sullivan, head of the FBI's Domestic Intelligence Division, as "the most dangerous Negro to the future of this nation from the standpoint of communism, the Negro, and national security".
On December 8, 1999 a jury in Memphis, Tennessee returned a verdict that civil rights leader Martin Luther King, Jr. was the victim of an assassination conspiracy. The evidence presented by King family attorney William Pepper, who had investigated the circumstances behind the assassination for the previous 20 years, was spelled out in detail in his 1995 book Orders to Kill, which alleges involvement by the Mafia, the FBI, the CIA and the military in the assassination. In 2003, Pepper published An Act of State: The Execution of Martin Luther King, which tells the whole story of how he came to discover the truth about the King assassination and its connection to the Kennedy assassinations.
I decided I probably shouldn't post this on the "legal" thread but...
What's the difference between a catfish and a lawyer?
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One's a bottom-dwelling scum-sucker and the other's a fish.
Greenpeace = radical
Earth First = extremist
Radical = skateboarding and surfing
Extreme = X games
Hey John, Are those the air raid drill kids all grown up?
I was a little traumitized by those as well...
Radical is on the Y axis and extreme is on the X axis.
Extreme means the farthest from center (way right or way left).
Radical means going to the roots (foundational, deep).
If you're square and you're radical, you're a
Those are your buddies aren't they Roy?
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Well Shane,
I'd like to think that you are my buddy.
I have never been accused of being apathetic though.
Gotta go deep to get to the bottom of many things that start at the percieved top.
This is the Playground after all....
I remember "duck and cover" as "get under your desk, put your head between your legs and kiss your ass goodbye".
Made about as much sense as "sheltering in place" with duct tape and poly in the event of a WMD attack.
What do you guys all think about free energy?
According to the Mayan calendar (or Ian Lundgrin), we're supposed to have discovered the technology by now
...
Nikola Tesla, perhaps the most brilliant man in history, tapped into that energy in 1900, had his financing pulled by J.P. Morgan and died in poverty.
After Tesla's death, the US War Department declared his papers "top secret" and they were seized by the FBI.
This has been the fate of any technology which threatens the profits of the corporate elites.
John,
Silly you. That can't work. You forgot to turn on the switch.
Sorry, its Ian x Lungold