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Shallow Vented Crawlspace Insulation/Encapsulation

DAbrams02 | Posted in Energy Efficiency and Durability on

Hello all, I’m Daniel. Here is my dilemma, I am trying to figure out a way to insulate and/or encapsulate a very shallow vented crawlspace under an older home. I’m located in central Kentucky, climate zone 4. The house was built in the 1950’s and is cobbled together with a series of cedar posts and CMU as the foundation piers, with CMU stem walls around the perimeter. The crawlspace stays dry, and the humidity only really raises with our humid summers. The issue I have is access, as the floor framing is only 6-10 in. above the dirt floor and with so many piers, reaching the front of the house is practically impossible. So, even if I could adequately air seal and insulate the stem walls with maybe an R-10 foam board on the exterior, I would not be able to properly install a vapor barrier on the dirt floor, which I’m afraid would defeat the purpose of encapsulating from the outside. Short of taking out all of the flooring and subfloor, piecing together a vapor barrier that way, and possibly spray foaming the inside of the stem walls, has anyone found a way to insulate and air seal from the outside and still be able to control moisture levels over a dirt floor? Our winters don’t get terribly cold, but the energy loss and discomfort of the floors is quite substantial.

My other thought was to air seal the outside of the crawl walls as best I could, remove just the flooring and install an electric mesh style of floor heating. But again, I’m afraid without proper air sealing and insulation of the crawlspace walls I would be introducing potential condensation issues in the crawlspace.  

Any advice or experience with a shallow crawl like this would be appreciated!

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  1. freyr_design | | #1

    Well technically code requires a class 1 vapor retarder but, I bet if you insulated and ducted in an oversize dehumidifier you wouldn’t have issues, especially if it is currently dry. I would worry mostly about radon in this scenario, and perhaps that could be solved by sealing your floor from inside. Again, not to code, but you could always seal it up “temporary” covering on the vents and see if it works.

    Disclaimer, never tried it…

    1. DAbrams02 | | #4

      Thanks, you're right.. probably worth trying. Any concerns with the longevity or efficiency of a dehumidifier in a dirt floor environment?

  2. FrankD | | #2

    Here's a half-baked idea: If the crawlspace floor is fairly level then maybe you could use a pour-in-place polyurethane foam, applied via the vents and a few holes opened up in the floor? There are delayed reaction foam products, but I have no idea how far you can expect them to spread out before starting to foam up.

    1. DAbrams02 | | #3

      Thanks for the idea, but I don't think I could get a consistent layer down without voids using that method. Too many piers and obstructions, the previous contractors even left an old cast iron sink under there for me :/

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