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Exterior insulation/double stud wall/canadian building code

WinterViper | Posted in Energy Efficiency and Durability on

Hi everyone, 
Building a home in Canadian Maritimes (climate zone 6). It seems most homes are now being built with R5 exterior insulation. We are attempting to build a “pretty good house” and trying to follow the design principles outlined in that book. I’ve read about concerns around condensation on the inside of the exterior insulation but given that an R20 wall with R5 of exterior insulation seems to work fine in our region is there any reason we can’t do a double stud wall with R22 +R12 batts with an inch of  Vapor permeable exterior insulation like iko ener-air? (>1 perm). Appreciate the feedback.

-siding
-rigid insul
-air barrier
-plywood sheathing
-2×6 wall 
-insulation
-6mm Vb
-2×4 service cavity
-1/2 inch gypsum

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  1. Uiloco | | #1

    Using R22 + R12 batts with an inch of vapor-permeable exterior insulation like IKO Ener-Air should work well in your climate zone. The key is ensuring you have a good air barrier and that the assembly can dry out if any moisture gets in.

  2. gstan | | #2

    Move the "rigid insul" from the exterior to the interior side of the
    2x6 wall (make it foil faced polyiso"), skip the 6MM VB (you
    don't need it because you now have the foil faced polyiso
    in between the two walls and it's is a truly excellent VB all
    by itself). In addition polyiso has a somewhat higher R rating
    than most other rigid insulation products and the reflective foil
    face will increase the R value of the 2x4 cavity wall by about 1.5 to 2.
    Because the Rigid Insul lies between the two walls it's protected
    from physical damage and you have eliminated the problems and
    fiddley details associated with attaching siding over Rigid Insul. Running
    a few calcs on the temps that will occur on those foil faces (at just about
    any imaginable temperature and humidity conditions) will convince
    you (or your engineer) that you will not have condensation problems
    with this wall config.
    Have Fun!

  3. Expert Member
    MALCOLM TAYLOR | | #3

    WinterViper,

    Exterior insulation/double stud walls are really an either or choice for a few of reasons.

    - Using exterior insulation adds a layer of complexity to walls that only makes sense if it is necessary to boost the R-value of the cavity insulation, or protect the sheathing from moisture concerns. Neither of these apply to double-stud walls.
    - The main attribute of double-stud walls is that you can adjust the amount of R-value to whatever you want by adjusting the width of the assembly without using more lumber. If you want additional R-value it makes more sense to do this than use exterior insulation.
    - Double-stud walls already have a thermal break, so exterior insulation doesn't help much in that regard.

    Unless you have some compelling reason to use the continuous exterior insulation I haven't thought of, I would omit it - or as gtan suggested relocate it to the interior face of the inner-wall.

    1. Expert Member
      Michael Maines | | #4

      I agree with all that you wrote, and would add that it's important to allow the sheathing to dry as readily as possible to the exterior. I design a lot of double-stud walls and even prefer plywood over OSB sheathing because it's more permeable when damp and handles moisture cycling better. Adding a thin layer of foam only makes it harder for the wall to dry. A rain screen gap is a critically important element to include, in my opinion.

      1. WinterViper | | #5

        Thanks for all the replies. I do find it challenging that there seem to be many differing opinions on some of these things. Makes it more challenging to talk to builders about changing their plans.

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          MALCOLM TAYLOR | | #7

          WinterViper,

          Could you post the reasons you would like to add the exterior insulation so we could discuss that specifically? There are a lot of variations on double-stud walls, and depending on the stack-up they can be quite different in how they are designed to dry, but I can't think of any rational for including exterior foam.

  4. gstan | | #6

    Just in case you are not aware of them there is a Canadian
    firm which specializes in this type of design "Passive Design Solutions"
    https://www.passivedesign.ca/pages/about-us
    (I am not affiliated with them in any way) just info!

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