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Dual pane window infrared….normal?

aztecrsf | Posted in General Questions on

Greetings all,

We’ve just finished building a home along the So Cal coast, and are surprised at how cold the house is. As a longtime follower of this site and others, I was diligent about air sealing (10 cases of caulk, 25+ cans of foam) and ended up re-doing at least 1/3 of our insulation myself because the subcontractor was so sloppy. 

Any by “cold” I mean the temp will say 74-75F, but it feels like 65F the moment the FAU shuts off. We’re going to do a blower door test soon. I’ve walked around with a FLIR and while our (many) IC recessed lights are clearly offenders (10F colder than the room), I don’t see any large likely air leaks or cold areas. 

That brings me to glass. I’ve attached an IR pic of a window. Interior temp was 72F, outside temp was 50F, center of glass 65F, and the edges were mid 50F range. Is this normal? 

Thanks for any insight.

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  1. gusfhb | | #1

    What is the outside temperature. Windows will run colder than the room depending on their quality

  2. gusfhb | | #2

    Oh, and my Cardinal glass with the interior coating will reflect your own temperature back at you
    thermal camera gives a nice heat signature of your reflection

  3. aztecrsf | | #3

    50F outside.

    They're Cardinal glass as well.

  4. gusfhb | | #4

    Ok missed that, I don't trust your thermometer. seems unlikely that there would be that kind of temperature when there is that little Delta T

    [Edit]
    Just checked my windows
    The worst 30+ year old glass had edge of glass numbers about 49 degrees
    It is 20 degrees out thermostat set to 69
    Interior surfaces[walls floor] read 65-67 degrees

  5. Expert Member
    BILL WICHERS | | #5

    That or image looks pretty normal to me. The frame is cold because of thermal bridging, the glass is cooler than the walls because of lower R value.

    If you want to measure the surface temperature of the glass, an IR thermometer won’t give accurate results because of the reflective solution. The solution is to put a piece of masking tape on the glass, then measure the temperature of the tape.

    Bill

  6. aztecrsf | | #6

    Hmm. Besides the FLIR IR, the only other tool I have is a thermal spotlight that can only tell you if what's in its read area is 5F cooler or warmer than a base reading. I do have a Thermapen, but I don't think I can go stabbing the wood!

    The FLIR does show the center glass about what you'd expect? 7F below room temp, +15F vs outside. Edges not so much at ~20F below room? Last night, with the shades down, I was shocked how cold it was between the shades and window.

  7. FrankD | | #7

    It certainly sounds like the discomfort you are experiencing is due to radiant heat loss. Do you have very large areas of glass? Do you know window specifications?

  8. oberon476 | | #8

    Who is the window manufacturer?
    Do you know what coating you have on the glass?
    Do you have a surface 4 coating?

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