Below grade polyethylene and slab
I am questioning as to the order of polyethylene vapor barrier to foam when placed under a slab. The reason I ask is because I am currently having my house built and today I have discovered that the contractor placed the poly directly on the ground (good drainable material) with the blue board foam boards on top of it. I have read in the past that the poly should be placed on top. I am worried that it has been done incorrectly. Any thoughts to put my mind at ease as I am rather stressed out right now. Thanks in advance.
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Matthew,
The best approach is to put the polyethylene on top of the rigid foam (directly under the concrete). That way they poly won't hold "bleed water" or rain water that sits between the foam cracks or trickles down to form puddles under the foam.
For more information on this topic, see Concrete Floor Problems.
In your case, the solution is fairly simple. Get a 4-foot length of rebar and use it to poke about 50 holes in the poly by jamming it between the seams of the rigid foam. Then install new poly on top of the rigid foam. Remember, polyethylene is cheap.
So, if I’m using closed cell (formulae 250- I know I’m bad and should be using #2 EPS) do I need the polyethlene?
Thanks,
PS, hope I am not co-opting this thread, sorry OP.
It's an eight year old thread, I think you're safe ;-) In theory you could be ok with taped XPS but the risk of something going wrong is pretty high. If you're in an area with high radon levels or high water table, or if your sub-slab prep does not allow the foam to lay flat, I wouldn't risk skipping the poly sheeting.
Thanks, after I posted this I read one of formular’s pamphlets and it looks like 2” of formular is 100x as vapor permeable as polyethylene. I did my best to chip the spilled messy excess concrete that ended up on our interior fittings but there are two spots about 1/3 “ to high, where the foam is a little rocky. I have the plastic on site so I’ll put it down. Better safe…