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Basement floor vapour barrier

sunstone | Posted in General Questions on

Location-Toronto, Canada Zone 6A (why doesn’t your zone map include Canada?)
A basement concrete floor with radiant floor installed but with no vapour barrier (R10 foam installed to secure the tubing but it is not continuous at the waste drainage lines)
Would it be advisable to put a vapour barrier on top of the new concrete floor before any flooring? Or maybe just leave it, let it breathe

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    Dana Dorsett | | #1

    There is a map that covers Canada & US, but it's not very accurate:

    https://www.greenbuildingadvisor.com/article/climate-zone-map-including-canada

    If you look at the most recent 25 year data history, Toronto is on the cool edge of zone 5, defined as as 3000 - 4000 HDDC (base 18C):

    https://toronto.weatherstats.ca/metrics/hdd.html (scroll down to the bottom for annual HDD)

    https://www.greenbuildingadvisor.com/article/all-about-climate-zones

    If the foam is the pink or blue stuff, at 2" it already meets the NBC definition of vapour barrier. If the only discontinuity is at the drainage lines (which are also impermeable to water) the total amount of area is small. That said, concrete doesn't need to "breathe", it is not damaged by moisture even when saturated. (They build bridge foundations out of it, after all.) If installing a wood subfoor or other flooring susceptible to moisture damage a layer of 6 mil polyethylene is pretty cheap insurance, even if not absolutely essential.

  2. sunstone | | #2

    Thanks Dana, for the charts,maps and data. All bookmarked under 'EE'
    After a concrete floor poured, is it advisable to delay framing of walls or any other steps. Flooring eventually or spray foaming of the walls (rubble fdn with dimple mat cover to ground level

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